The following is an email that addresses two problematic actions by the City of Encinitas. My hope is that P.D. Peak Democracy will be responsive to address their defects, and by doing use their tools to bring wider scrutiny to P.V., the purchase of Pacific View. One other point is that both they and the city will retain residents email information. While they promise preservation of our privacy, this L.A. Times article explains how this is becoming impossible.
July 5, 2014
To: Corporate Management Peak Democracy (PD)
Michael A. Cohen
Michael A. Cohen
As
a resident of Encinitas California, I have written in opposition to our
city's contract with you, with several articles available on
AlRodbell.blogspot.com This link
is to the article in the Encinitas Advocate, with my critique of
elements of your product as an appended comment. We live in an era when
all powerful entities, public and private, are coming under scrutiny,
and usually this uncovers serious issues, examples being GM, VA Medical
Care and NSA activities. You have gotten a pass in the adoption
process by this city, based on trust, without the Reagan codicil, which
is to "verify."
Given
the insufficiency of the vetting by the city, you are now our partners,
so let me make a pointed suggestion. The city is about to finalize by
inaction the contract to purchase property known as Pacific View. The
use of this ten million dollar purchase has never been defined further
than a vague one of being a "center for the arts." There has been no
general input by the broad electorate of this city on the purchase, it
being driven by a campaign that activated less than 2% of residents. The
opposition, such as
appeared in this letter
to the
editor of the printed edition of the July 4th "Encinitas Advocate" has
not been conveyed to the taxpayers of the city, a problem that your
"Open Town Hall" claims to redress. This is a timely and appropriate
issue that could be addressed by a survey such as those that you
provide. But, before this has credence, there are specific requirements
that have not appropriately been implemented.
One
of the
many questions that were never asked when you won over the Encinitas
staff, refers to auditing of the responses to your surveys. As of now
the raw metadata and content goes directly to your company, to first be
evaluated and possibly modified (clause 7.3), only then to be made
available to city government and forum participants after such vetting
by PD. While you have promoted the benefits of this procedure,
deflecting challenges such as mine with "this is only advisory, and not a
referendum" this is understating the seriousness of the potential for
manipulation of public sentiment.
This
can be addressed by shared access to raw data from forum participants
by interested parties other than PD or exclusively city officials. An
open forum, the essence of your advertised product, must have this
quality to avoid accusations such as mine that they could become a
vehicle for institutional propaganda-the very antithesis of an "Open
Town Hall."
I look forward to your response
Al Rodbell
July 8, 2014
I received a this response to the email from Peak Democracy the evening of July 6th
Hello Mr. Rodbell,
Unlike other utilities purchased to enhance the city's website which only convey information this relationship with Peak Democracy is potentially insidious, as it is sending emails and then receiving comments that have the implied stamp of being official. The right of modification must be eliminated in the user agreement which other venues such as Disqus, the largest internet forum company in the world, does not include in their terms of service. Disqus has potential defects described on the Wikipedia article about the service, but these issues are in the open. this utility provides the functionality advertised by Peak Democracy without the control by them that PD demands. As for their claims of privacy, this article from the Stanford University Legal-Internet project explains why this is not possible.
July 8, 2014
I received a this response to the email from Peak Democracy the evening of July 6th
Hello Mr. Rodbell,
Thank you for contacting us here at Peak Democracy
.
The topics that appear on the City of Encinitas E-Townhall are selected by the City of Encinitas. If you would like, we could forward your suggestion about a topic on Pacific View to our liaison at the City or you may contact them directly with your suggestion.
To respond to your other concerns we never modify statements without the consent of the statement author, and make all public data available immediately. In fact, you may view that data by going to any topic and downloading reports of the on-forum statements at any time.
Additionally we do not share users' contact information with anyone without their consent in accordance to our privacy policy.
Please do let us know if there is anything we may assist you with.
Cheers,
Rob
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My response was:
Rob,
Yes, I understand that you do currently have a procedure in place for handling problematic comments that does seem reasonable. However clause 7.3 is still part of your Terms of Service, and does allow what it says, which is modify user's input. This allows you do this even if it is not your current practice This is the agreement that most publishers impose for submissions of letters to the editor that is not acceptable to many, thus skewing the demographic of respondents. The current wording should be replaced with a specific separate section that defines your procedure, such as:
Comments on Open Town Hall are publicly posted based on standards determined by the municipality. If they do not conform to such standards based on various criteria such comments will be returned to writer while held in a non public file temporarily. The comment may be revised. resubmitted or deleted by writer.
This statement in your response is contradictory, " we make all public data available immediately." In fact, you may view that data by going to any topic and downloading reports of the on-forum statements at any time."
If you do vet comments, then there must be a time lag between user posting and it being on the forum, so how can it be available immediately?
Please give provide me with the name of the your Encinitas Liaison as you offered.
Regards
Al Rodbell
Unlike other utilities purchased to enhance the city's website which only convey information this relationship with Peak Democracy is potentially insidious, as it is sending emails and then receiving comments that have the implied stamp of being official. The right of modification must be eliminated in the user agreement which other venues such as Disqus, the largest internet forum company in the world, does not include in their terms of service. Disqus has potential defects described on the Wikipedia article about the service, but these issues are in the open. this utility provides the functionality advertised by Peak Democracy without the control by them that PD demands. As for their claims of privacy, this article from the Stanford University Legal-Internet project explains why this is not possible.
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